L'industrie du VR mal en point
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- jacmat
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L'industrie du VR mal en point
Décidément ca ne va pas bien dans l'industrie du VR.
Encore une fermeture d'un manufacturier la semaine dernière. En effet un manufacturier de caravane a sellette de haut de gamme a fermé ses portes. Il s'agit de Teton Homes de Casper Wyoming.
Déjà depuis un peu plus d'un an ca en fait plusieurs qui ferment leurs portes. Je connais les suivants:
Travel Supreme
Alfa
National RV
Les ventes ont fléchies de plus de 50% depuis 1 an.
Il y a eu des réductions importantes d'effectifs chez la plupart des manufacturiers.
Monaco ferme cette semaine la plupart de ces installations d'Indiana, la production sera concentrée en Oregon
Winnebago a fermé au moins 2 usines
Fleetwood, Newmar et Country Coach en plus d'avoir mis a pied beaucoup de travailleurs ne fonctionnent que quelques jours/semaines.
En connaissez vous d'autres......
Encore une fermeture d'un manufacturier la semaine dernière. En effet un manufacturier de caravane a sellette de haut de gamme a fermé ses portes. Il s'agit de Teton Homes de Casper Wyoming.
Déjà depuis un peu plus d'un an ca en fait plusieurs qui ferment leurs portes. Je connais les suivants:
Travel Supreme
Alfa
National RV
Les ventes ont fléchies de plus de 50% depuis 1 an.
Il y a eu des réductions importantes d'effectifs chez la plupart des manufacturiers.
Monaco ferme cette semaine la plupart de ces installations d'Indiana, la production sera concentrée en Oregon
Winnebago a fermé au moins 2 usines
Fleetwood, Newmar et Country Coach en plus d'avoir mis a pied beaucoup de travailleurs ne fonctionnent que quelques jours/semaines.
En connaissez vous d'autres......
- Maca3780
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Re: L'industrie du VR mal en point
La semaine dernière l'usine de Newmar à Napanee était fermée.
Ils ont arrêté la production pour une semaine.
Ils prévoit fermer 4 semaines en décembre plutôt qu'une.
Newmar fonctionne 4 jours par semaine maintenant.
Ils ont arrêté la production pour une semaine.
Ils prévoit fermer 4 semaines en décembre plutôt qu'une.
Newmar fonctionne 4 jours par semaine maintenant.
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- Roadtrekeux
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Re: L'industrie du VR mal en point
Il faut croire que tout le problème des hypothèques aux USA a eu un impact important chez les manufacturiers et détaillants de VR des States qui ont misé sur des ventes à court terme au lieu de planifier leur développement sur une période plus longue. Cependant, le marché de l'usagé ne ralentit pas autant.

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Re: L'industrie du VR mal en point
Le problème est le côut de l'essence et non pas des hypothèques accordées à des non payeurs !
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Re: L'industrie du VR mal en point
C'est sans doute un autre facteur quoique les Amerlocs qui ont des "Big rigs" ont généralement l'argent pour le gaz. On constate le même scénario avec l'industrie des bateaux de plaisanciers et des petits avions.

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- CONDOR
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Re: L'industrie du VR mal en point
Voici une autre preuve de mal en point de l'industrie:
California RV dealer offers new RVs at half pric
(Jan. 1, 2008) -- Altmans Winnebago, one of southern California's largest RV dealers, announced today that it will sell new motorhomes
, toy haulers, fifth wheels, and travel trailers at up to 50 percent off their original prices.
Under the banner of "Extreme Buy of a Lifetime" the promotion will offer the bargains on RVs from Winnebago, Damon, Pilgrim, Teton, Thor, and Gulf Stream. The sale will be limited to new 2006 and 2007 models at 50 percent off MSRP, and 40 percent off 2008 models.
"Our lending institutions and manufacturers have given us incentives with the result that we must immediately reduce inventory," said Joe Altman, president of the RV dealership
.
A brand new, fully equipped 30' Winnebago Class A motorhome, originally priced at $83,258 will be available for $41,629. A 2008 Class A Winnebago Tour 40-foot diesel pusher with a 400 hp Cummins engine, originally priced at $268,697 will be sold for $161,218. At 40 percent off MSRP, a brand new 2008 Class A 35L Winnebago Adventurer with a window sticker of $160,038 can be purchased for $96,023.
Altmans Winnebago has two locations: one in Carson and one in Colton. The sale will end of January 31 or when the 50th RV is sold.
California RV dealer offers new RVs at half pric
(Jan. 1, 2008) -- Altmans Winnebago, one of southern California's largest RV dealers, announced today that it will sell new motorhomes
, toy haulers, fifth wheels, and travel trailers at up to 50 percent off their original prices.
Under the banner of "Extreme Buy of a Lifetime" the promotion will offer the bargains on RVs from Winnebago, Damon, Pilgrim, Teton, Thor, and Gulf Stream. The sale will be limited to new 2006 and 2007 models at 50 percent off MSRP, and 40 percent off 2008 models.
"Our lending institutions and manufacturers have given us incentives with the result that we must immediately reduce inventory," said Joe Altman, president of the RV dealership
.
A brand new, fully equipped 30' Winnebago Class A motorhome, originally priced at $83,258 will be available for $41,629. A 2008 Class A Winnebago Tour 40-foot diesel pusher with a 400 hp Cummins engine, originally priced at $268,697 will be sold for $161,218. At 40 percent off MSRP, a brand new 2008 Class A 35L Winnebago Adventurer with a window sticker of $160,038 can be purchased for $96,023.
Altmans Winnebago has two locations: one in Carson and one in Colton. The sale will end of January 31 or when the 50th RV is sold.
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Et en voici un autre article expliquant bien que la situation est grave.
Excuser l'Anglais
Friday, December 5, 2008
Another week of bad RV industry news.
This week SunnyBrook RV, makers of towable RVs, laid off half of its workforce and the largest Jellystone RV park filed bankruptcy. Meanwhile attendance at the opening day at the prestigious National RV Trade Show fell 37% from what it was last year.
The dealer attendance was even worse and are you surprised? After all, we’ve lost so many RV manufacturers and dealers this year I’ve lost count.
I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I know a trend when I see one. With the big three automakers up against the wall and begging congress for a bailout is it any wonder discretionary spending categories like boats and RVs have fallen off a cliff? The present RV industry is a dinosaur destined for extinction.If you believe the RV market is going to turn around any time soon you’re from another planet. The fact is we will continue to see more RV manufactures, RV parks, RV dealers and RV related businesses tank in 2009. Call me a wet blanket or call me a pessimist, in fact you can call me anything you want, but it doesn’t change the facts. The RV industry is dying and I’m writing the obituary now.
You’ll hear pundits say things like, “The RV industry has gone through tough times before and we survived and we’ll survive it this time as well.” I have some advice for the pundits, “Go see a psychiatrist while you still have health insurance because you’re living in a fantasy world.”
The RV industry as we know it will not recover this time. If the largest U.S. auto makers can’t make it without you and me giving them a monster loan through our taxes, then what makes the pundits think the RV industry is going to survive?
Every CEO in the RV industry knows the end is near. They’re fearful and doing desperate things like quietly looking for buyers like Coachmen successfully did last month. They’re trying to fend off bankruptcy by negotiating with their investors while not being able to make interest payments on their loans like the manufacturer Fleetwood and the largest Florida RV dealer Lazydays.
Seriously, this time next year you’ll be saying, “The Professor of RVing was right, the RV industry really did tank…I wish I would have listened to him and had that warranty work done while my dealer was still in business.”
Thinking about joining one of those RV park membership systems? I would think twice before I committed any money into that sink hole.
Thinking about purchasing a new RV? Do yourself a favor and buy a quality used RV instead because it is likely that most of the warranty work has already been done and the majority of the bugs worked out.
If you insist on purchasing a new RV subtract at least 40% off the already marked down price. If they don’t want to deal, give them your phone number and tell them to call you when they get serious and walk off the lot. You might as well get the best price you can because you’re not going to be able to get any warranty work done after they’ve gone out of business. Better yet, wait until the bankruptcy court appointed trustee holds an auction and sells the same RV for pennies on the dollar.
The main stream media has fallen down on the job of reporting the facts that we are entering the most serious global depression in history. Just this week we learned the U.S. has been in a recession since December 2007. You didn’t have to wait for the mainstream media to tell you the RV industry was in trouble because I told you back on December 2nd, 2007 in the article entitled, “RV industry in financial crisis.” Now I’m making another prediction: The next few years will be the worst catastrophe in economic history and the RV industry will not be spared. The worst part of our current economic crisis is yet to come!
I caught a lot of flack from my December article but it turned out to be true. I suppose I’ll catch even more flack from this article, but as a journalist covering the RV beat I would be professionally negligent if I did not tell the truth and report the facts as they emerge.
This coming year our world will be shaken to the core and it will never again be the same. I doubt there will even be a National RV Trade Show in 2009 and if it does happen it will be a much smaller event, unrecognizable from its former grandeur.
Jim Twamley, Professor of RVing
Michel
Excuser l'Anglais
Friday, December 5, 2008
Another week of bad RV industry news.
This week SunnyBrook RV, makers of towable RVs, laid off half of its workforce and the largest Jellystone RV park filed bankruptcy. Meanwhile attendance at the opening day at the prestigious National RV Trade Show fell 37% from what it was last year.
The dealer attendance was even worse and are you surprised? After all, we’ve lost so many RV manufacturers and dealers this year I’ve lost count.
I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I know a trend when I see one. With the big three automakers up against the wall and begging congress for a bailout is it any wonder discretionary spending categories like boats and RVs have fallen off a cliff? The present RV industry is a dinosaur destined for extinction.If you believe the RV market is going to turn around any time soon you’re from another planet. The fact is we will continue to see more RV manufactures, RV parks, RV dealers and RV related businesses tank in 2009. Call me a wet blanket or call me a pessimist, in fact you can call me anything you want, but it doesn’t change the facts. The RV industry is dying and I’m writing the obituary now.
You’ll hear pundits say things like, “The RV industry has gone through tough times before and we survived and we’ll survive it this time as well.” I have some advice for the pundits, “Go see a psychiatrist while you still have health insurance because you’re living in a fantasy world.”
The RV industry as we know it will not recover this time. If the largest U.S. auto makers can’t make it without you and me giving them a monster loan through our taxes, then what makes the pundits think the RV industry is going to survive?
Every CEO in the RV industry knows the end is near. They’re fearful and doing desperate things like quietly looking for buyers like Coachmen successfully did last month. They’re trying to fend off bankruptcy by negotiating with their investors while not being able to make interest payments on their loans like the manufacturer Fleetwood and the largest Florida RV dealer Lazydays.
Seriously, this time next year you’ll be saying, “The Professor of RVing was right, the RV industry really did tank…I wish I would have listened to him and had that warranty work done while my dealer was still in business.”
Thinking about joining one of those RV park membership systems? I would think twice before I committed any money into that sink hole.
Thinking about purchasing a new RV? Do yourself a favor and buy a quality used RV instead because it is likely that most of the warranty work has already been done and the majority of the bugs worked out.
If you insist on purchasing a new RV subtract at least 40% off the already marked down price. If they don’t want to deal, give them your phone number and tell them to call you when they get serious and walk off the lot. You might as well get the best price you can because you’re not going to be able to get any warranty work done after they’ve gone out of business. Better yet, wait until the bankruptcy court appointed trustee holds an auction and sells the same RV for pennies on the dollar.
The main stream media has fallen down on the job of reporting the facts that we are entering the most serious global depression in history. Just this week we learned the U.S. has been in a recession since December 2007. You didn’t have to wait for the mainstream media to tell you the RV industry was in trouble because I told you back on December 2nd, 2007 in the article entitled, “RV industry in financial crisis.” Now I’m making another prediction: The next few years will be the worst catastrophe in economic history and the RV industry will not be spared. The worst part of our current economic crisis is yet to come!
I caught a lot of flack from my December article but it turned out to be true. I suppose I’ll catch even more flack from this article, but as a journalist covering the RV beat I would be professionally negligent if I did not tell the truth and report the facts as they emerge.
This coming year our world will be shaken to the core and it will never again be the same. I doubt there will even be a National RV Trade Show in 2009 and if it does happen it will be a much smaller event, unrecognizable from its former grandeur.
Jim Twamley, Professor of RVing
Michel
Michel, Martine et Maya notre Labrador
5th Wheel , Cruiser 2013, 29, 5 pieds, Ram HEMI 5.6 L
5th Wheel , Cruiser 2013, 29, 5 pieds, Ram HEMI 5.6 L
Re: L'industrie du VR mal en point
ROMANICHEL a écrit:. A 2008 Class A Winnebago Tour 40-foot diesel pusher with a 400 hp Cummins engine, originally priced at $268,697 will be sold for $161,218. At 40 percent off MSRP, a brand new 2008 Class A 35L Winnebago Adventurer with a window sticker of $160,038 can be purchased for $96,023.
D'apres toi , font t'il encore un profit sur c'est véhicules vendu avec cette reduction ou si ils vende a perte?
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Salut Caraquet
La marge de profit sur le prix suggéré est de 40%
Je lisait aussi sur le forum irv2.com que country coach ont fait parvenir a tous leurs employés une lettre disant que si ils ne
trouvaient pas de nouveaux financement la compagnie fermerait ses portes le 1 mars un autre de plus
André
La marge de profit sur le prix suggéré est de 40%
Je lisait aussi sur le forum irv2.com que country coach ont fait parvenir a tous leurs employés une lettre disant que si ils ne
trouvaient pas de nouveaux financement la compagnie fermerait ses portes le 1 mars un autre de plus
André
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Vendre a perte est moin couteux que de payer pour entretenir des machines qui bouge pas , payer pour un grand terrain qui sert d'entreposage avec des frais de gardiennage et tout . Ils vendent a perte mais c'est le moindre mal parceque vendre après un an amène des frais de remise en service ( tu en connais un bout la dessus ) et sans savoir si plus tard sa va se vendre ou se faire presser pour faire des pousse-pousses chinois .
André
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