Boondocking interdit en Nouvelle-Écosse (#1)

[Alain Rheault]

Je viens de regarder la date sur la lettre du premier ministre... December 17, 2004 c'est quand meme du mois de décembre... 2004 il y a surement eue des changement non ??

Faudrait pas retourner des vieux déchets.. (je parle pas du PM la! )

Mais nous devons suivre ce dossier dans son ensemble en ne perdant pas de vue la Cronologie...

Tant qu'a moi je pense que l'on est rendu plus loin que beaucoup de discussion sur la toile!

Notre répose a nous est daté de : MARS 2007

C'est plutot encourageant non ?

..Une chance que je lis avant de répondre.. je m'en allait etre pas tres poli!

[CONDOR Profil Message privé]

Merci Alain je n'avais pas remarqué
Je vais redessendre de ma caisse de bière moi la

mais Je continue à croire que la bataille sera gagné quand Wal-Mart fera tomber ces pancartes de No Overnight parking.

Michel

[Danielle Profil Message privé]

Je viens de regarder la date sur la lettre du premier ministre... December 17, 2004 c'est quand meme du mois de décembre... 2004 il y a surement eue des changement non ??
..Une chance que je lis avant de répondre.. je m'en allait etre pas tres poli!

Bravo Alain! C'est ce que j'appelle avoir l'aiguille dans le bon sens! Fallait bien regarder!

[CONDOR Profil Message privé]

Message suite à ma remarque que la lettre datait de 2004

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject:

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condor50 wrote:
Stan this letter was made December 2004
Thing could have change since then.
Michel

Nothing has really changed.

1) The law hasn't changed;

2) And apparently, the ability of Ministers of Tourism to read and understand what they are reading hasn't changed either!!

The Tourist Accommodations Act, proclaimed in, 1996, has never in any way been amended since then [last amended 1995-96, c. 13, s. 87].

Rodney MacDonald, Minister of Tourism, now Premiere: "Our government and the campground industry consider camping in locations such as Walmart parking lots, illegal."

Basically, the Premier declares Wal-Mart Parking illegal 'cause the campground industry says so!! So who's running things out there?? Is the Premier of Nova Scotia SO illiterate that he requires the services of overwhelmingly under-educated campground owers to explain the law to the Premier lawmaker of the province??

Hon. Leonard Goucher, Minister of Tourism: the new Minister of Tourism for the very same political party, when confronted with the heretofore stated position of his government, holds up his holy hands in horror, gasp!:

I am not sure where the member opposite is getting the facts from that RVs are not permitted to park in anything other than an RV park because that is not correct. Under the Tourist Accommodations Act, RVs are only regulated when they are parked in for-profit parks. So that particular situation is not correct and we have, through numerous correspondence to owners and associations, told the individuals and the groups of this situation.

It's rather scary: that two Ministers of Tourism can read the very same law and come up with two diametrically opposing interpretations of the very same law!!

If lawmakers don't have the ability to understand the very laws they themselves have crafted, then . . .

Perhaps lawmakers are not as stupid as they seem:

In a legal system where ignorance of the law isn't a Defense; why not just incorporate ignorance as a feature of the law, and then no one will have a Defense.

Michel

[Alain Rheault]

La lettre que nous avons recu stipule:

Bien que la loi fasse présentement l'objet d'une révision, nous voulons vous rassurer, ainsi que le public en général qui pratique le camping, qu'il n'existe aucune restriction et que les propriétaires de véhicules récréatifs ne commettent aucune infraction à la loi sur l'hébergement touristique en passant la nuit dans un terrain de stationnement.

Et j'aillu cette loi , et le non stationement est pour les véhicule fesant commerce, comme des vendeur de fruit / légumes ou des roulote a pattates frites.

En aucun cas les VR ne font parti de cette loi!

Et c'est surement pourquoi en 2004 sous pression des propiétaires de terrains de camping, le PM voulait ammender la loi pour y inclure les VR.

DOnc selon moi la loi n'a pas étét amendé et ce n'est donc pas illégal de stationer pour la nuit dans un endroit de notre choix, surtout si on nous empeche pas!

Tant qu'on ne vend pas a partir de nos VR!

[CONDOR Profil Message privé]

Pour revenir sur le sujet de la Nouvelle-?cosse il semblerait qu'au printemps la loi va être amandé.
Voici une repnse qu'on m'a donné sur un autre forum:

condor50 wrote:

[color=brown][i]Last year I went around the Maritime Provinces in Canada, all except Nova-Scotia because the government have pass a legislation law, banning overnight parking for the entire Province, So they dont deserve my money.
I spend more time in Prince-Edward Island and New-Brunswick, beaufifull places by the way.


I'm glad you brought up the Nova Scotia law.

Things are supposedly changing in Nova Scotia. There's been a Provincial law on the books since the mid-1990s, making it illegal for a property owner or manager to allow RVs to park overnight on their property unless the property is a licensed campground. If an RVer parked overnight in a Wal-Mart or other parking lot in Nova Scotia, it was the STORE, not the RVer, who was in violation of the law and who would be cited and fined.

With the advent of the Internet, meaning that more and more RVers are aware of this law, the government of the Province of Nova Scotia has realized that hundreds if not thousands of RVers are staying away from Nova Scotia because of that law.

In August, 2007, the Provincial Government officially announced that they would no longer enforce that law. The law and the regulations behind it are supposed to be re-written "by spring, 2008," and an announcement of the new law and regulations should come immediately thereafter. I have an RV.net Blog Entry on this subject all drafted, and will post it in the Blog section of www.RV.net (and on the OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group as well),as soon as I learn what the new law and regulations say.

Jim O'Briant
Gilroy, CA
Moderator, OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/OvernightRVParking/ [/i][/color]
Michel

[Alain Rheault]

C'est de bonnes nouvelles ca! .. le GREY POWER! ou LE BABY BOOMER POWER! m.chante force du nous.. avec l'aide de l'internet!

[CONDOR Profil Message privé]

:) C'est de bonnes nouvelles ca! .. le GREY POWER! ou LE BABY BOOMER POWER! m.chante force du nous.. avec l'aide de l'internet!

Beaucoup de gens, surtout des membres de ce forum ce sont impliqué, encore une fois BRAVO
Michel